First Pick

[JohnnyHustler]

With the extra points for longer TDs, I'd go with Rodgers.

[lotus]

I found the scoring system... No more double points like I stated earlier. Double scoring was done away with after Marshall Faulk's last great fantasy season the commish told me. So I text my buddy and he said Brady or Rodgers is his final 2 now.

Passing
Rule Apply To
1 point for every 50 Passing Yards (0.02 per) ALL
2 points for every 2 Pt Conversion Passing ALL
6 points for every Passing TD ALL
3 extra points for every Passing TD between 10 and 39 yards (inclusive) ALL
6 extra points for every Passing TD between 40 and 74 yards (inclusive) ALL
9 extra points for every Passing TD between 75 and 100 yards (inclusive) ALL
Rushing
1 point for every 20 Rushing Yards (0.05 per) ALL
2 points for every 2 Pt Conversion Rushing ALL
6 points for every Rushing TD ALL
3 extra points for every Rushing TD between 10 and 39 yards (inclusive) ALL
6 extra points for every Rushing TD between 40 and 74 yards (inclusive) ALL
9 extra points for every Rushing TD between 75 and 100 yards (inclusive) ALL
Receiving
1 point for every Catch ALL
1 point for every 20 Receiving Yards (0.05 per) ALL
2 points for every 2 Pt Conversion Receiving ALL
6 points for every Receiving TD ALL
3 extra points for every Receiving TD between 10 and 39 yards (inclusive) ALL
6 extra points for every Receiving TD between 40 and 74 yards (inclusive) ALL
9 extra points for every Receiving TD between 75 and 100 yards (inclusive) ALL
Kicking
3 points for every FG Made ALL
7 extra points for every FG of 50 or more yards ALL
2 extra points for every FG between 40 and 49 yards (inclusive) ALL
1 point for every XP ALL
Returning
6 points for every Kick Return TD ALL
3 extra points for every Kick Return TD between 10 and 39 yards (inclusive) ALL
6 extra points for every Kick Return TD between 40 and 74 yards (inclusive) ALL
9 extra points for every Kick Return TD between 75 and 110 yards (inclusive) ALL
6 points for every Punt Return TD ALL
3 extra points for every Punt Return TD between 10 and 39 yards (inclusive) ALL
6 extra points for every Punt Return TD between 40 and 74 yards (inclusive) ALL
9 extra points for every Punt Return TD between 75 and 110 yards (inclusive) ALL
Other
[None]
Defense
2 points for every Interception ALL
1 point for every Sack ALL
2 points for every Fumble Recovered TM
6 points for every Safety ALL
6 points for every Defensive TD ALL
3 extra points for every Defensive TD between 10 and 39 yards (inclusive) ALL
6 extra points for every Defensive TD between 40 and 74 yards (inclusive) ALL
9 extra points for every Defensive TD between 75 and 110 yards (inclusive) ALL
10 extra points when total Points Allowed is exactly 0 TM
8 extra points when total Points Allowed is between 1 and 4 (inclusive) TM
6 extra points when total Points Allowed is between 5 and 9 (inclusive) TM
4 extra points when total Points Allowed is between 10 and 13 (inclusive) TM
2 extra points when total Points Allowed is between 14 and 15 (inclusive) TM

Take Peterson or Foster.

Well, that's a nice thought, but Vick is going to get hurt at some point...pretty much evening out that double point thing.

But hey, what do I know.

You could say that about anybody, though. Sometimes you just have to roll the dice.

[rabb]

Bullshit, running QBs get hurt more and you know it...but like I said, please take Vick at #1 in our league I would appreciate it.

And DFS - I will remind you what happened the last time someone we know drafted Brady #1, hilarity ensued

[lotus]

What is your yardage threshold for a "running QB"?

[rabb]

I don't understand your question

[YEM]

And DFS - I will remind you what happened the last time someone we know drafted Brady #1, hilarity ensued

Hilarity ensued? That's cold blooded man

[DaddyFatSack]

Bullshit, running QBs get hurt more and you know it...but like I said, please take Vick at #1 in our league I would appreciate it.

And DFS - I will remind you what happened the last time someone we know drafted Brady #1, hilarity ensued

Refresh my memory please sir.

[rabb]

if you mean how often does a QB have to run to be a "running QB" I would say 75 attempts or more...yardage isn't a good measure for that, IMO

[rabb]

And DFS - I will remind you what happened the last time someone we know drafted Brady #1, hilarity ensued

Hilarity ensued? That's cold blooded man

Not hilarity in that Brady tore his knee up in the first game, but more because Aldogg drafted him #1 based on the big ass year the year prior and we all gave him so much shit about it, then he tore his knee, then Aldogg went missing

[YEM]

And aldogg is still missing lol

[lotus]

if you mean how often does a QB have to run to be a "running QB" I would say 75 attempts or more...yardage isn't a good measure for that, IMO

Yeah, that's what I meant basically. You're right about the attempts vs yardage I think.

[DaddyFatSack]

And DFS - I will remind you what happened the last time someone we know drafted Brady #1, hilarity ensued

Hilarity ensued? That's cold blooded man

Not hilarity in that Brady tore his knee up in the first game, but more because Aldogg drafted him #1 based on the big ass year the year prior and we all gave him so much shit about it, then he tore his knee, then Aldogg went missing

Now I remember.

[rabb]

Just as an example, here is how many 16 game seasons Vick has had (not counting time in prison) since being in the league: 1/8

AP: 2/4

Yeah I get that Vick didn't start last year or the year before but I won't go with a boom or bust guy at #1 myself, granted the guy can have some amazing games he could also make you sorry as fuck you used a #1 on him

but, anyone can get hurt so who knows, I will stop preaching it

[Falling Man]

Wow that scoring system is fucked up!

[lotus]

Vick is the only QB to have had more than 75 rush attempts (he had 100) last season. Next closest was Freeman at 68, followed by Garrard, Rodgers, Cutler, Campbell, Ryan, Flacco, Tebow and Fitzpatrick.

I don't know if I'd classify any of those guys as running QBs but the stats would suggest that they are what you have in that category. The year before it was Garrard with 77 attempts in the lead and then a sharp drop into the 60s and 40s after that.

I would suggest that Vick is a statistical outlier then for that kind of measure, and so we might just have to say that HE gets hurt more often than some other QBs because the rest of those guys aren't so injury prone.

You have to go back then to 2007 to find any QB who rushed more than 75 times (Young at 93 attempts) and then it goes from pre-prison Vick at 123 in 2006 down to Young at 83 for that year and David Carr (WTF?) at 53.

I think maybe 75 is too high a number to use to classify a guy as a runner these days, or maybe Vick is the only runner anymore.